It's barely a minute long. I guess that sums up about how much love there is.
Billy the Ex-Bethelite
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"jehovah loves all sorts of people"
by stuckinarut2 inok, so if you haven't as yet watched the new cartoon clip on the website, be prepared to throw up!.
it is called "jehovah loves all sorts of people", and features an awful song about how "jehovah loves everyone" even "different colors", etc....yep...they actually say that!.
huh??????.
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Last chance to make an impact! Help me please....
by Anon_SA1 inso tomorrow is going to be my last encounter with a jw friend of mine for various reasons on her side.
(long story).
i have spent a lot of time discussing various concerns about the jw teachings, but havent been able to make any progress in helping her to question or doubt the teachings.
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Billy the Ex-Bethelite
It's hard to know what, if anything, will get through to any one JW. Since you've already unsuccessfully tried to reason on JW history, doctrine, and false prophecies, those probably won't be any more successful in your next conversation.
I've never knowingly gone into a "last chance" conversation like you've described. But theoretically, the closest I've been, I would try to make the conversation as positive, true, personal as possible... and rather distanced from anything JW. If, for example, it were my cousin:
"We've certainly been through a lot together. We spent a lot of time together as kids. Remember when you asked me to explain to you what 'f**k' means? [other reminiscing goes here] Later we went in different directions. You moved away. I moved away to bethel. But whenever we got together, it was like we picked up where we left off. We're family, the ties that bind... and gag. LOL.
"One of my regrets is that I wasn't good about keeping in touch with you or most of the important people from my younger days while I was in bethel. When I finally left bethel, I tried to make the best of what my life had become. But I wasn't happy. And the harder I tried to be happy, the unhappier I became. I've told you enough of the reasons I wasn't happy and why my life had taken the direction that it has. Unfortunately, I now understand that those reasons that I mentioned to you, have made you unhappy and uncomfortable with me. I want you to be happy. So if that means that you will be happier by not talking to me and not seeing me, so be it. It doesn't make me happy to not be a part of your life, but I can't go back to living in the miserable shroud of unhappiness that I used to live in"
I'd have much more to say, of course, but I'm thinking I'd go for the non-cult persona if it's still alive in there somewhere to get them to laugh and cry. If they want to talk about beliefs, okay, I might go there, but not far. I already know what JWs believe and that they're programmed to question and attack what I would present as my beliefs. So I'd be more concerned about just trying to keep things open for future contact.
Not sure if that's any help, Anon. But good luck!
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Why do we get TTATT and others don't?
by quest81 ini have thought about how ttatt came full circle for me.
how the connecting the dots was simple and just made sense,.
how silos of information are literally at our fingertips today.. why is it that the ones we love cannot get ttatt?.
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"jehovah loves all sorts of people"
by stuckinarut2 inok, so if you haven't as yet watched the new cartoon clip on the website, be prepared to throw up!.
it is called "jehovah loves all sorts of people", and features an awful song about how "jehovah loves everyone" even "different colors", etc....yep...they actually say that!.
huh??????.
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Billy the Ex-Bethelite
After over a decade in bethel, it's clear to me that Hojovah loves the sorts of people who are blindly obedient and conform to the JW mold... so that's really only one "sort" of people. -
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Why do we get TTATT and others don't?
by quest81 ini have thought about how ttatt came full circle for me.
how the connecting the dots was simple and just made sense,.
how silos of information are literally at our fingertips today.. why is it that the ones we love cannot get ttatt?.
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Billy the Ex-Bethelite
Here's a picture of me from about 12 years ago...
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1 Meeting for each of your fingers ? ? ?
by william draper inanybody remember how this became a doctrine , years ago , we were at the meetings so that out fingers would be learning something .
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Billy the Ex-Bethelite
You can take one finger off or miss one meeting and still keep a hold on the bible.
And why exactly would I want to hold onto a bible?
LOL
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1 Meeting for each of your fingers ? ? ?
by william draper inanybody remember how this became a doctrine , years ago , we were at the meetings so that out fingers would be learning something .
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Billy the Ex-Bethelite
There's still a PT, WT, "Bible study", School, and Serve-us meeting... They're just a lot shorter, and shoved into a two-finger glove. -
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Why people don't believe in God
by pressman indo you want to know why i think people don't believe in god?
well i believe people don't want to believe in god because they are scared.
they know that if they finally do gorge the confidence to believe in him, he might discipline them for their skepticism.
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Billy the Ex-Bethelite
I still think this is satire. Just not very good satire.
Do you want to know why I think people don't believe in the Easter Bunny? Well I believe people don't want to believe in the Easter Bunny because they are scared. They know that if they finally do gorge the confidence to believe in him, he might discipline them for their skepticism. Now I would like to invite everyone on this forum to wake up and open your eyes to see that the Easter Bunny is true and real.
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Reports of lower memorial attendance
by thedepressedsoul ini have heard a lot of reports from kingdom halls in the area that there was less than last year, for both time slots.. we had the first time slot and we were down 50+/- compared to last year.
last year we had the lobby full of people standing and this year we had empty seats and no one standing.
we ran out of parking last year and this year we made it.. like i said i am hearing quite a few reports of this from halls in our area.however, somehow the number seem to inch up every year.
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Billy the Ex-Bethelite
...and why turn a Good Friday into a Dull Friday by wasting the evening in a Kingdumb Haul?
As far as the tract campaign in my area, I saw some invites crumpled in the garbage in the building foyer. Either my neighbors beat me to it, or the JWs themselves have started saving householders the trouble and just leave them in the trashcan.
Perhaps the most effective JW tract campaign presentation (for a convention, their website, etc.) would be something like:
[knock, knock]
Householder: "Yes."
Publisher: "Good morning. Could you throw this scrap of paper away for me?"
Householder: "Sure!" [takes tract]
Publisher: "Thanks!" [to himself] "One more down. These things practically place themselves!"
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Isle of Thanet Gazette Article: Inquest concludes Dad of two died (JW Elder) in Margate on night he went missing.
by AndersonsInfo inhttp://www.thanetgazette.co.uk/inquest-concludes-dad-died-margate-night-went/story-26272711-detail/story.html.
inquest concludes dad of two died in margate on night he went missing.
by isle of thanet gazette | posted: april 03, 2015 .
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Billy the Ex-Bethelite
R&R, I wonder if he'd posted pictures of himself to a site looking for "companionship."
And as I said on the other thread, this is such a tragedy. And if I had a dollar for every sexually frustrated JW I've known, well, I'd have a least several thousand dollars... and that's including myself!
